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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:15 AM

1st mock. This one from SB Nation:

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1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

Key needs: QB, pass rush, S, OLB, CB, OL

The needs for the Browns are endless. Quarterback is the big one, but acquiring someone like Jimmy Garoppolo or A.J. McCarron via a trade are possibilities. Emmanuel Ogbah looks like a good end, but the Browns need a player to go with him. Both safety spots should be in play with new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. Cornerback becomes an even greater need if Joe Haden is released this offseason. Offensive line in general for the Browns is iffy at center, right guard and right tackle.

2. San Francisco 49ers - Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

Key needs: QB, pass rusher, CB, WR

With the 49ers at the start of a rebuild, that begins with a quarterback. Should the 49ers pass on quarterbacks early, there will be some good pass rushing outside players high in the draft. Just behind those two positions is cornerback, where the 49ers just need a legit No. 1, and wide receiver where a big play threat is lacking.

3. Chicago Bears - Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson

Key needs: QB, WR, CB

Is it time to move on from Jay Cutler? If so, neither Matt Barkley nor Brian Hoyer is a long-term replacement. If Alshon Jeffery is gone in free agency, the Bears could rely on the solid depth of the position this year to find his replacement. Kyle Fuller missed the entire season after undergoing knee surgery in August, and his dependability could lead Chicago to find a high-upside cornerback in the middle of the draft.

4. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama

Key needs: OL, DE, S, RB

You could argue that Jacksonville needs to get better at right tackle, right guard and left guard. At defensive end, Jared Odrick is likely a cap casualty. Safety becomes a bigger need if Johnathan Cyprien leaves in free agency. You could argue that a better offensive line will make the running backs on the roster better, but in a deep running back class, the Jaguars could find a good player.

5. Tennessee Titans (via Los Angeles Rams) - Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

Key needs: CB, WR, S, MLB

It’s clear that the Titans need a legit No. 1, shutdown cornerback but is the fifth pick too high to get that player? Take out “shutdown cornerback” in the previous sentence and the same can be said for wide receiver. The Titans could go after one of the elite playmaker safety early. A middle linebacker the Titans just need a dependable player who can get forward and stop the run and occasionally drop in coverage.

6. New York Jets - DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame

Key needs: RB, QB, CB

The Jets have several bodies at quarterback, including last year’s second-round pick Christian Hackenberg, but there is no sure thing there. Considering the lack of production at quarterback, a running back could take over the offense for the Jets. Of course, that would be easier if there weren’t questions on the line at center, where Nick Mangold has an uncertain future, and right guard where Brian Winters is a free agent. Darrelle Revis got old in a hurry at cornerback, and there isn’t a lot of talent at the position for New York.


7. San Diego Chargers - Jamal Adams, S, LSU

Key needs: OT, S, WR

On the offensive line, the Chargers haven’t had a great tackle in years. King Dunlap and Joe Barksdale are average players who could be upgraded. At safety, the team needs a playmaker that they’ve lacked since Eric Weddle left. Because Keenan Allen can’t stay healthy, the Chargers could target an outside receiver at some point in the draft.

8. Carolina Panthers - Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

Key needs: LT, RB, DE, DT

Mike Remmers is better off on the right side of the offensive line, and Michael Oher’s future with the team could be in question after his missed 13 games with a concussion. At running back, Jonathan Stewart averaged less than four yards per carry, and isn’t the type of player who can take over a game if Cam Newton is struggling. The play of Charles Johnson has dipped, and Kony Ealy has been inconsistent at defensive end. Defensive tackle might jump to the front of this list if Kawann Short can’t be brought back.

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

Key needs: WR, DE, MLB, LT

A.J. Green is the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL, but do the Bengals really have a difference maker at the position beyond him? At defensive end, the Bengals need a good bookend for Carlos Dunlap, and Margus Hunt and Will Clarke have failed to break out. The Bengals could really use an inside linebacker next to Vontaze Burfict with Rey Maualuga potentially being an offseason cut. Cedric Ogbuehi has been a disappointment at left tackle thus far.

10. Buffalo Bills - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

Key needs: QB, WR, TE, CB

Once the Tyrod Taylor era closes with his release in Buffalo, only Cardale Jones will be under contract at quarterback for the Bills next season. Wide receiver could get a look because when Sammy Watkins was sidelined this season for nine games, the passing offense really struggled. At tight end, Charles Clay has been uneven and another pass catcher at the position could help. Stephon Gilmore’s pending free agency leaves a hole at cornerback.

11. New Orleans Saints - Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

Key needs: DE, LB, CB, QB

The Saints have needed to address pass rusher for several years, and this could be the year to strike. Linebacker needs an infusion of young talent, especially on the outside. Although New Orleans will get Delvin Breaux and P.J. Williams back at cornerback, adding another player at cornerback would help if either – or even both – gets injured again. At some point the Saints will need to consider a successor to Drew Brees.

12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles) - Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan

13. Arizona Cardinals - Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

Key needs: QB, CB, WR, OLB

How much time does Carson Palmer have left in the NFL after turning 37 in December? Finding his heir in the past has been a failure with players like Logan Thomas and Matt Barkley. Other than Patrick Peterson, Arizona’s talent at cornerback is questionable. The Cardinals cut Michael Floyd near the end of the season, and Larry Fitzgerald will be 34 at the start of next season. Can Arians’ offense work with just John Brown and JJ Nelson? Outside linebacker becomes a need if Chandler Jones isn’t re-signed. Keeping or finding his replacement will keep the pressure of budding star Markus Golden.

14. Philadelphia Eagles (via Minnesota Vikings) - Teez Tabor, CB, Florida

Key needs: CB, WR

It’s all about the perimeter for Philadelphia. The Eagles might be smart to take not just one, but possibly two cornerbacks with their first three or four picks in the draft this year. Wide receiver becomes less of a need if DeSean Jackson returns to Philadelphia, but the Eagles really need a sure thing at the position.

15. Indianapolis Colts - Tim Williams, OLB, Alabama

Key needs: OL, OLB, RB

It seems like the Colts just can’t manage to put together a complete offensive line. A player to fit the right side would be good to pair with Joe Haeg, who can play guard or tackle. At linebacker, a pass rusher is needed. A running back would be a nice fit because Frank Gore’s career is winding down, and Robert Turbin is little more than a backup.

16. Baltimore Ravens - Takkarist McKinley, OLB, UCLA

Key needs: Pass rush, WR, S, RB

Baltimore’s pass rush faded this season, and it will need to be bolstered even if Terrell Suggs and Elvis Dumervil are both back – though the latter could be gone in a cap relief move. With Steve Smith’s retirement, the Ravens lose a player who was targeted on nearly a quarter of Joe Flacco’s pass attempts. Safety becomes a need if Baltimore chooses to save $5.5 million by release Lardarius Webb this offseason. Few teams ran as little as Baltimore last season. Is that because of the offensive scheme or Terrance West and Kenneth Dixon just not being that good?

17. Washington - Reuben Foster, MLB, Alabama

Key needs: DT, MLB, S, WR

Washington’s needs are straight up the middle on defense. Better talent on the defensive line will keep blockers off players like Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith. A good middle linebacker will do the same, and give the team a player who can stop the run. Wide receiver becomes a greater need if DeSean Jackson isn’t re-signed.

18. Tennessee Titans - Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford

Key needs: WR, DE, C

The Buccaneers are on the brink of being a playoff team, and a very good secondary wide out to go along with Mike Evans could put the offense over the top. At end, run stopping ace William Gholston is a free agent. A defensive end who can rush the passer would be a good fit as well. It won’t be a first round need, but the Buccaneers should be one of the first teams to take a center in this year’s draft.

20. Denver Broncos - Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama

Key needs: OT, G, DT, RB

The offensive line for the Broncos is a wreck, and needs multiple upgrades this offseason. Denver also has a big need along the defensive line where the play has dipped the last couple of seasons. At running back C.J. Anderson played in just seven games, and failed to impress.

21. Detroit Lions - Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan State

Key needs: Pass rusher, DT, CB

Whether they find it at linebacker or defensive end, the Lions have to find a pass rusher who can keep some pressure off Ezekiel Ansah. A linebacker could be of particular need if DeAndre Levy is released. A defensive tackle, Haloti Ngata is really starting to show his age. A cornerback with playmaking ability could really boost the pass defense.

22. Miami Dolphins - Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt

Key needs: OLB, WR, CB

It’s clear that the Dolphins need athletic outside linebacker who can play the run and the pass. They could add multiple players at the position. At wide receiver, the Dolphins could target a player if Jarvis Landry can’t be re-signed. A high-end cornerback would be a good addition on a roster that lacks a star at the position.

23. New York Giants - Taco Charlton, DL, Michigan

Key needs: DL, TE, CB

Along the defensive line, both end Jason Pierre-Paul and tackle Johnathan Hankins are free agents, and the team splashed big money on that side of the ball last offseason. Neither Larry Donnell or Will Tye are the playmaker the Giants need at tight end. In the first two rounds they should have several options at the position. If Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is let go this offseason it opens up a key spot at cornerback.

24. Oakland Raiders - Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida

Key needs: MLB, DT, RB

If the Raiders really want to take the next step, they’ll have to get better up the middle, with no position being more important than linebacker. They need someone who can really move around, but also play with strength. A power defensive tackle would help keep blockers off whichever linebacker is brought in. Running back Latavius Murray is a free agent after the season, and if he’s not re-signed the Raiders will need a big back to go along with promising rookie DeAndre Washington.

25. Houston Texans - Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida

Key needs: MLB, DT, OT, QB

Bernardick McKinney has become a good player for the Texans at middle linebacker, but Houston could look to replace Brian Cushing this year. An offensive tackle to play the right side or eventually replace Duane Brown on the left would make for smart choices. At defensive tackle, Vince Wilfork’s career is winding down, so finding a place to complete with D.J. Reader would be ideal. Considering the uneven play of Brock Osweiler, the Texans could go after a high-upside passer at some point this year.

26. Green Bay Packers - Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State

Key needs: RB, G, CB

It’s clear the Packers need to improve a running game that’s fallen back on wide receiver Ty Montgomery and journeyman Christine Michael. If they don’t go running back early, a good guard to fill the hole created before the season with the release of Josh SItton. This offseason the Packers will have to decide whether the development of a player like Quinten Rollins is where they want it to be.

27. Seattle Seahawks - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin

Key needs: OL, DL, S

Seattle has possibly the most obvious needs of any team. It’s clear the team needs to get better along the offensive line to protect Russell Wilson and bolster the run game. On the defensive line the Seahawks could find an upgrade over Ahtyba Rubin inside. Safety will get a look early if Earl Thomas decides to retire.

28. Pittsburgh Steelers - Charles Harris, OLB, Missouri

Key needs: LB, OL, QB

The Steelers will have to figure out what to do at linebacker where Lawrence Timmons and Jarvis Jones are free agents, and James Harrison may be in the final year of his career. The Steelers have done a nice job of developing their offensive line, but quality depth is needed. Pittsburgh can improve upon Landry Jones as a backup developmental quarterback.

29. Atlanta Falcons - Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn

Key needs: DT, DE, FS

Atlanta could be light at defensive tackle depending on what happens with Jonathan Babineaux and Tyson Jackson. Getting a player to go alongside Grady Jarrett would be ideal. Adding an extra pass rusher this offseason will be a priority as well. This looks to be a strong class of free safeties, so there’s a possibility head coach Dan Quinn could find his very own Earl Thomas at some point.

30. Kansas City Chiefs - Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

Key needs: CB, FS, QB

Pairing Marcus Peters with another dynamic cornerback early would be smart, and an upgrade over Phillip Gaines. Considering Eric Berry’s pending free agency, the Chiefs could have a hole there as well. Quarterback is a sneaky need for the Chiefs considering the talent behind Alex Smith.

31. New England Patriots - Ryan Anderson, LB, Alabama

Key needs: LB, DT, WR

After getting rid of Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins, the Patriots are lacking in pure talent at linebacker. The Patriots could also target the defensive tackle spot to work alongside players like Malcom Brown and Vincent Valentine. Finally, a consistent wide receiver could have a usual role in New England’s offense.

32. Dallas Cowboys: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

Key needs: DE, CB, OLB

The Cowboys may have found a real player David Irving, but they could stand to do with another good pass rusher on the edge. They could also be looking to add a cornerback considering Morris Claiborne’s pending free agency. Linebacker depth could be added in this draft just in case Sean Lee happens to suffer an injury again.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:16 AM

How would we feel with that pick? I'm not a huge fan.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:40 AM

I actually think trading down for extra picks may be best. But this is the Jets and they will screw up whatever they do.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:45 AM

Sure lets pick another "Potential" QB.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:39 PM

No. I want a starter at any of our many positions of need on Day One of the season out of my first rounder. Too many holes to fill without reaching.

Feeling bad about a reach and a project last year in Round Two with Hack? It will feel much worse with a reach and a bench sitter in Round One this year. Accumulate picks and depth during this multiyear rebuild, and be in position to trade up in a future draft when there actually is a QB worthy of a 1st round selection.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:42 PM

Unless they are sure this guy is a day one starter, pass or trade down if some other team wants to.take him

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:06 PM

I've seen mocks earlier than this one. If you look hard enough you can find them all year. Somewhere there's probably a 2018 mock.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:19 AM

View Postdcat, on 10 January 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

How would we feel with that pick? I'm not a huge fan.


It's terrible pick.....and I'm an ND fan. I've seen him play plenty.

No.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:36 AM

Only two offensive linemen taken both in the twenties, should silence the bozos always crying for OL.
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or Dr Watson. If not OLB oozing with quicks or trade down. Pick up a combination of TE, RB, CB, edge rusher.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:37 AM

I really doubt either of the 2 top rated QB's will be available at 6. That's bad on 2 counts: no QB for Jets & it eliminates the biggest incentive for trading up. The Jets have multiple holes to fill but they also need impact players. I'm getting too old for this.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:53 AM

View Postjmc712, on 11 January 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

I really doubt either of the 2 top rated QB's will be available at 6. That's bad on 2 counts: no QB for Jets & it eliminates the biggest incentive for trading up. The Jets have multiple holes to fill but they also need impact players. I'm getting too old for this.



Trading up requires picks, I'm against that, but if a team is willing to accept some of our garbage players, I'm in
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:34 AM

How did the Packers get a HOF QB many years ago?THEY TRADED UP!!There is no absolute rule to drafting.Lee has great measurable s but his play was mediocre at best.Give me players not stat machines!!

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:18 PM

How did the Jets acquire their QB of the future in 2009? They traded up! Mark Sanchez cost us a first and second round pick and some players. My point is that trading up can go both ways. This team needs talent at so many positions that trading up isn't really a smart move unless you are absolutely sure that you have a top of the league franchise QB there for the taking.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:20 PM

This Mock draft loses points right off the bat by saying that one of the Jets biggest needs is RB. Really! Bilal Powell and Matt Forte were the reason this team didn't make the playoffs? Couldn't be farther off than that.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:24 PM

 prime5, on 11 January 2017 - 10:34 AM, said:

How did the Packers get a HOF QB many years ago?THEY TRADED UP!!There is no absolute rule to drafting.Lee has great measurable s but his play was mediocre at best.Give me players not stat machines!!

They also traded up for Clay Matthews. Jerry Rice was a trade up as well. The GM has to be able to evaluate talent & a little luck (other teams not recognizing the talent) is always nice.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:42 PM

no QB reaches this year. the jets are prepped to tank
and have a top 3 pick next year.
best to trade down and stockpile for more quantity in 18
for the next GM to play with.
a second day QB flyer this year, i'm cool with that.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:28 PM

View Postprime5, on 11 January 2017 - 10:34 AM, said:

How did the Packers get a HOF QB many years ago?THEY TRADED UP!!There is no absolute rule to drafting.Lee has great measurable s but his play was mediocre at best.Give me players not stat machines!!


Rodgers was picked 24th. They traded UP to 24th?

Favre was drafted by Atlanta.

So, who do you mean?
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:40 AM

I meant Favre!!

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 01:20 AM

 prime5, on 12 January 2017 - 12:40 AM, said:

I meant Favre!!

I thought Atlanta drafted Favre without trading up (after the Raiders backed out of a trade with Jets). Too long ago for me to be sure.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:48 AM

 jmc712, on 12 January 2017 - 01:20 AM, said:

I thought Atlanta drafted Favre without trading up (after the Raiders backed out of a trade with Jets). Too long ago for me to be sure.


Yup. Jets wanted Favre but didn't have a 1st round pick as they had used it in the previous supplemental draft to pick Rob Moore.

Jets tried to trade up for Favre and thought they had a deal but it fell through. Jets sat and waited and watched Favre get closer and closer. In the 2nd round, one pick before the Jets would have picked him, the Falcons picked Favre. The Jets went to the next QB on their list and selected Browning Nagle.

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